Has China Won? Will There Be War? (Kishore Mahbubani)

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Has China Won? Will There Be War? (Kishore Mahbubani)
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Daniel Dumbrill
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In today's episode I had the great pleasure of sitting down with Kishore Mahbubani for a discussion about China, America and their global relationships.

You can find Kishore's book (Has China Won) here:  https://amzn.to/32YMlRQ
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Arthur Johnson
Arthur Johnson
4 days ago
Best quote: "America is an open society with a closed mind. China is a closed society with an open mind."

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Fisher Peace
Fisher Peace
4 days ago
US never wanted a better China for the Chinese people in any perspective, it just wants cheaper labor to maintain its wasteful lifestyle and its white supremacy. Just look at what US did to Iraq! US wants a divided China, which would be much easier to hold on leash. UK and US has been intentionally planting seeds for separatism everywhere in the world, Pakistan and India, North and South Korea, Mainland China and Taiwan, etc..

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Cornelius Thompson
Cornelius Thompson
4 days ago
Why anyone still listen to Pompeo and the US who lie, cheat and steal?

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Bob Jones
Bob Jones
2 days ago
Americans can't even agree on masks, much less be objective on China.

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Realitybites W
Realitybites W
4 days ago
OMG, Daniel, you are the MAN!!! You landed Mahbubani, one of top 100 intellectuals of the century.

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Dave Lok
Dave Lok
4 days ago
I think those millions of dollars pumped into those American think tanks are NOT design for advancing American interest.  It is more to advance the special interests of those particular private groups.  It’s about advancing the private sectors.

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Guy
Guy
1 day ago (edited)
I also like this quote: “ In America you can change the Party but you cannot change the policies but in China you cannot change the party but you change the policies “. That’s why China can adapt to the world realities but the US cannot hence China success. Note to my American friends: you do NOT have a democracy but a plutocracies which means your country is NOT control by your politicians but by your 1% elite. As mentioned in the video, it very difficult to replace a plutocracy but you can start my demanding from your elected officials that taxes be radically increase on the 10% and corporations to redistribute wealth more equitably.

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J Z
J Z
4 days ago
The fact that people like Daniel and Kishore do exist in the world, who are non-Chinese but have a rational and fair opinion on China, make me still hope we could avoid a world-wide conflict between China and the West. Respect and appreciate.

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nizicike
nizicike
4 days ago
Kishore Mahbubani  told the truth about China ，compare to countless anti - China  Youtube channel ,he and  George Galloway  are most respectful people that humanity can earned

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Sandra Moses
Sandra Moses
4 days ago
George Galloway in one of his videos stated that the US in the early 1990s wanted to use Al Qaeda to attack China, especially in Xinjiang. Its a well known fact that Al Qaeda is the creation of Saudi Arabia and the USA. Al Qaeda's ideology is based on radical Salafist Wahhabism, the state religion of Saudi Arabia. But instead, Al Qaeda turned on the US. And 9/11 happened. The US reaped what it sowed. As the Yiddish saying goes 'Man make plans, but God laughs'. The US plays a dangerous and insidious game and makes diabolical plans using Islamic Terrorism to undermine other countries making it a state sponsor of terrorism. So the Almighty turns His wrath on this country which is a warmongering lawless rogue state. Like 9/11, we wonder what the Almighty will have in store for the US abomination? It wouldn't be pretty.

The behaviour of the US using terrorism to undermine countries continues. The US transported thousands of Jihadists from Afghanistan to fight the Syrian government. A civil war that has killed more than 500,000 people and destroyed property and infrastructure worth 600 billion. Pity the Syrian people.

Ajit Singh on Xinjiang.
https://youtu.be/lBz-DW0NJa4

Kim Iversen on Xinjiang.
https://youtu.be/Ff4YZBi4UTc

George Galloway, 43 mins into video:
https://youtu.be/xg4wqJ15e-o

Watch George Galloway "Western hypocrisy over Chinese Uighur Muslims" on YouTube
https://youtu.be/eyG5v21lKTU

The Falun Gong, cult of evil. Foreign Correspondent on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/QzlMQyM8p74

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Taping Tap
Taping Tap
4 days ago
"A democratic elected Chinese leader will be more nationalistic and anti West." How insightful !

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santsuma
santsuma
4 days ago (edited)
After 17:55 ... Dr. Mahbubani: " America has the best strategic think tanks in the world ... America has the worst strategic thinking in the world."... Brilliant!

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The Architect
The Architect
4 days ago
Daniel getting some serious connections over here.

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Kit Chau
Kit Chau
4 days ago
The best thing for the World economy is for everyone to stop using the American dollar for trade.

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nathan lam
nathan lam
4 days ago
USA is falling because the tax dollars are not going to to people. So they blame China. So easy.

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Kwok Wai Lai
Kwok Wai Lai
4 days ago
China is not a threat to the American way of life. 👍
But Americans are in trouble with their leaders failing to lead. Blaming China for American incompetence to handle the COVid-19 is not only irrational but also creates great problems for Americans controlling the epidemic which will cause great economic losses for years to come.

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Ivan Tan
Ivan Tan
4 days ago (edited)
I am from Singapore and I can say Lee Kuan Yew's wisdom has influence my view on China. Great job on the interview Daniel.

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Life in China with Patrick Freeman
Life in China with Patrick Freeman
4 days ago
Great interview 👍🏻👍🏻. I’ll be picking up his book.  It’s a shame that peace is not being pursued.

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Realitybites W
Realitybites W
4 days ago (edited)
Dr. Mahbubani is so insightful and smart, democratically elected Chinese government would have started a war with Taiwai and Japan already.

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THW
THW
4 days ago
Omg, Daniel is interviewing Kishore! Singaporeans assemble! 🇸🇬😆

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lamsang woo
lamsang woo
1 day ago
Professor Kishore is the most highly respected political analysts in the world. His analysis is objective and thorough.

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D W
D W
4 days ago
Kishore works for the Asian Peace Programme and sees zero visibility in western media. Meanwhile all we get in MSM is ASPI Think Tank analyst shills for war mongering companies like Raytheon, BAE, Lockheed Martin, and Boeing. Who is the aggressor here?

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Naji Alqhfa
Naji Alqhfa
4 days ago
The Chinese system is the correction of dangerous world we live, may Allah[god] bless our planet with more great leader like xi jinping

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obsidianstatue
obsidianstatue
3 days ago
one of the biggest misrepresentation of China in the west is that they claim they are just anti-CPC and not anti-China,  the problem is the Communist Party of China represents the most Chinese system you can have, short of an imperial restoration which doesn't fit the modern society. here's why
1) CPC represents the entirety of China because it's not a political party, it's a ruling organization, or ruling class that allows people from all walks of life who are good enough to join and govern the country. A political party requires constituencies, and a clear ideological textbook translated into policy, CPC has no implemented ideology. their policy involves Whatever works.

The CPC by having 90 million members that comes from all sectors of the Chinese society. CPC is also fundamentally different  from other political parties, in that they form the bureaucracy that govern the country, normally a political party and professional bureaucrats are 2 separate entities. but in China they are the same.

In China there is also no politicians, people who govern do not play politics or partisanism.  Xi jinping and the members of the central government is ranked 1, while a new member of the Party who might be a clerk at a government agency is ranked 27.
People in the West simply cannot get their head around this idea of not having politicians running the country, but that's exactly the cast in China. I call people governing China, Professional Administrators. 

2) The ideology of the CPC also makes them preresensitive of the Chinese civilization. ever since Emperor of Qin unified China in 221 BC, China has been governed by 2 prominent ideologies, Confucianism and Legalism, during the Imperial era, Confucianism stresses social hierarchy,  and social harmony, it sees the State as an extension of the family,
Legalism uses the law the enforce order in society, Confucianism is the idealistic view of the world, while Legalism is the realist view.

Mao once said "Through a hundred generations we are still governed by the laws of Qin", He hated Confucianism so the prefered Legalism and admired the first emperor of China, Emperor Qin shihuang.

To this day, the CPC governs China according to these 2 philosophies, The Harmonious society (Confucian) was the corner stone of Hu jintao's administration, and the phrase "Govern the Country according to Law" (Legalism) was quoted by Chinese media and Xi jinping for literally thousands of times.
These 2 pillars combined with socialism forms the governing philosophy that rules China and policies are set according to it.

So Socialism with Chinese characteristics, is essentially Chinese Confucian-Legalism with Socialist characteristics. This is why framing CPC as the Civilization Party of China is easier to define the Party in a western understanding of the world.

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H Teo
H Teo
4 days ago
Even if China is not a communist country, USA will be outright hostile to China. This is actually obvious because Japan was a liberal democracy in the 1990s, but USA was very hostile toward Japan too, at during that time. It was just pre-internet era at the time, so you dont see much of the news in 1990s on the archives of the internet, but if you go to the library, you can read the old news papers archived therein, and see every issue the American media says about Japan then is 95% similar to the issues about China today.

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Bunny Unicorn520
Bunny Unicorn520
4 days ago
Daniel, you are fast becoming a heavy-hitting independent journalist. I wish you health success and good fortune for charting an objective path in high quality content

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Marion Plaza
Marion Plaza
4 days ago (edited)
”Do you want to do good？or Do you want to feel good？” sums up my entire question against arrogant Americans。

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Brain Washington
Brain Washington
4 days ago (edited)
The US is a threat to itself and the world.  Let's hope that the next round of QE is enough collapse the dollar, once USD cease to be the world's reserve currency, it will no longer able to bully the rest of the world.

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Beard Cat
Beard Cat
4 days ago
The west sees communism as such a huge threat to their democracy and picture China as pure evil , yet China never did or even tried to assert its system to any other countries. the CCP has lifted a quarter of the world's population from poverty yet the west simply can not see or acknowledge any of the achievements. When products are designed in California and made in China the world is happy , China was the world factory and helped the world's consumer enjoy cheap products by doing hard work and now it want to be designed in China and made in China, the US of course will have issue with this, BUT , PLEASE don't start the argument under the disguise of  "democracy over dictatorship" but rather look at China as healthy competition. at the end of the day the hypocrisy and double standard is becoming so obvious that ppl don't need me to remind them of this

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shy zhan
shy zhan
4 days ago
China wants to make friends with all countries in the world. But if you want make enemies with China, China would be a good enemy.

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苏苏
苏苏
4 days ago (edited)
Just yesterday, John Oiiver made another clip "China & Uighurs: Last week tonight with John Oliver (HBO)". Feeling disappointed how such a knowledgeable person so easily work together with people like Pompeo without recognizing his complicity to the political agenda. Anti-China has become the 1st place political correctness.

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margaret kimoto
margaret kimoto
4 days ago
Totally agree:  Dr. Mahbubani: " America has the best strategic think tanks in the world ... America has the worst strategic thinking in the world."
Keep up the good work!

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Lone Ranger
Lone Ranger
4 days ago
Kishore is too kind to America.
America's real intentions have never been to do good. It has always been to feel good.